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Mornin '12

Finally got a chance to watch The Dark Knight Rises last night and there are a few things I wanted to comment regarding the movie. What you can expect this time around is the same sort of atmosphere and strong characters we all appreciated in the previous two movies. Christopher Nolan has directed this one masterfully. The script isn't the best aspect of this particular movie. It's the convincing and well-written characters that carry the movie to a pretty solid finale. There are some extremely powerful scenes involving Bruce Wayne as he straps on his Batman suit to fight the villains of Gotham once more.

Bane is an awesome villain, but as I explained to Vince last night, Christopher seems to have a knack for bringing out the evil in a character to the point where you get blown away. That, coupled with Tom Hardy's cool stance as he marches onto the scene as Gotham's worse nightmare, makes for a must-see. Granted, you can sense the absence of Heath Ledger's incredible performance. That's just unavoidable. However, The Dark Knight Rises stands on its own and gives the Dark Knight trilogy a fitting ending, hinting the birth of new superheroes at the end, of course.

In short, this is a movie you have to watch if you like Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.




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KraGeRzR Jul 28 2012, 01:43 am EDT
I heard it had major structure issues, as though it was 2 movies hurriedly crammed together.

Apart from that it's apparently fucking amazing. I'm probably going to see it on Monday.
PigMaster Jul 28 2012, 01:51 am EDT
I didn't like the movie.
If you haven't watched it , stop here !


The script was well easy to guess ,
They show you an armory , you know the bad guy is gonna get it. They tell you the reactor can be used as a bomb , you know the bad guy is gonna get it.
Catwoman act was awful. Batman breaks his back and probably spinal chord and still gets up to jump and dance. The ending was crap and again , an easy american endong.
Bane was brilliant , until you realize he doesnt have a real idioligy - juat love for the hindu girl , who's not suppose to be hindu , because ras ah gul is not hindu ( the pit is near udpur or jaipur , rajastahn, india).
The final 'rebel' attack should have been repeled easy with one armoured batmobile.
Character development was really good , but stopped and the whole story turned into a lame love opera.
I can go on and on with too many examples.

All in all i gave it a 5/10.
  vkzlord: Talk about getting into to the movie...
PigMaster: I recognized the pit location cause I traveled throug…
vkzlord: What about Gotham?
Breedy_Mcfluff Jul 28 2012, 03:28 am EDT
I have a bit of a feeling the production of this movie had a shit load of pressure on it. Probably why I'm afraid to be disappointed by it, but I'd trust Christopher Nolan with a remake of the Original Star Wars trilogy if such that were to happen.

Good to see it recommended by the AT man.
  Ftmch: If anything Nolan should do a remake of the new Star …
finaleve Jul 28 2012, 11:21 am EDT
I found it good. Not edge of your seat but good. Hard to follow up The Dark Knight but still interesting. I found Bane's voice a bit off though. That accent really just made him seem not as evil and yet he pulled some crazy stunts.

A lot of the things that happened throughout the course of the film were pretty predictable but at the same time, they were still pretty harsh moves. Even the ending was predictable but at the same time, gave a kind of closure to the films.
Bubu Jul 28 2012, 12:18 pm EDT
Only thing i liked about dark knight is the joker. I thought gotham became way to "realistic". In the first movie it looked different, had some comic vibe to it. and the action scenes .... Fuck me what a mess ... Especialy the first one with scarecrow. did they improve them in this one?
antonphd Jul 28 2012, 01:27 pm EDT
i was surprised that this was a batman film that actually focused on bruce wayne. usually, these movies are about the villians. this was bruce wayne's story through and through. every character and every thing that happens in the story is about bruce wayne finally getting what he wanted from the moment he watched his parents murdered in front of him. SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS in the end the batman finally becomes a symbol to inspire gotham, the torch is passed on to a worthy successor, and bruce finally leaves behind the pain in his past both literally, by moving away from gotham, and emotionally, by ending up with catwoman... his new family. not what i expected, but i loved it.
im_stardust Jul 29 2012, 02:03 am EDT
Joker is overrated. And so was Heath Ledger. Apparently most folks don't know the comparison between good acting and great acting.


It's interesting that before the '89 Batman,, Michael Keaton already had the "batman" face and Jack Nicholson already had the "joker" smile.
The feeling the 1989 Batman had will never repeat itself.
  Cheddar: '89 Batman can't even be compared to Nolan's Batman, …
im_stardust: And??? I wasn't comparing the two. Posting just fo…
Cheddar Jul 29 2012, 02:24 am EDT
Heath Ledger may now be overrated in hindsight for almost all of his performances... except Dark Knight.

The very fact that Ledger has made people forget Nicholson's Joker is proof itself of how brilliant Ledger was as Joker. I guess you don't remember, stardust, but leading up to the Dark Knight its definitely not as if people were under-appreciating Nicholson's Joker. Indeed, it was a common talking point, with most people convinced that while Ledger might be good, Nicholson would always be king. I was *myself* in that category of expectation, actually.

And then look what happened.

Credit where credit is due... Ledger is the best Joker of all time. It was easily the best performance of his career, and probably would've ended up being his career's break-out moment, like De Niro in Godfather 2, if he hadn't foolishly offed himself shortly after.
  im_stardust: I wasn't comparing Jack Nicholson's joker with Ledger…
Cheddar Jul 29 2012, 02:29 am EDT
Anyway, in my opinion the lowest point of Dark Knight Rises from a critical standpoint is the treatment of Talia's character. For such a hugely important character from the comics, it seems to me like she got rather short shrift.

That, and the plot twist she represented was so obvious I saw it coming more than an hour before the movie got to it, and I'm sure others here did, too.

"Hmm, this character's name isn't a love interest from the comics. Hmm, she just shagged Bruce. Hmm, she's a bit foreign and exotic. Hmm, she just conveniently got control of Bruce's fusion reactor thingy... yep, that's totally Talia. Wonder when the reveal is coming."
im_stardust Jul 29 2012, 02:29 am EDT
Yeah, yeah,...go leave more comments on youtube, where they belong.
Cheddar Jul 29 2012, 02:41 am EDT
Certainly no shame in subjectively favoring Nicholson, dude's a legend and his Joker was perfect for Tim Burton's style, but I'm just saying it's silly to dismiss Ledger's Joker in turn as merely 'good' acting.

Heath Ledger wasn't even recognizable as himself in the role, and one simply can't achieve that without a truly profound performance.
im_stardust Jul 29 2012, 02:48 am EDT
You fell in love with Heath Ledger after you saw Brokeback Mountain? Is that it?
Cheddar Jul 29 2012, 02:56 am EDT
Actually I didn't like Brokeback Mountain. I thought it was lame as hell that Hollywood spun a story about marital infidelity as 'heroic' and 'brave' or some shit just because the two protagonists cheating on their wives and betraying their families were homosexual.
  im_stardust: We were talking about Heath Ledger.
EricHalfBee: That's a really odd criticism of Brokeback Mountain. …
im_stardust Jul 29 2012, 03:11 am EDT
For me, there's a fine line between good and great. Glengarry Glen Ross or Tommy Lee jones - In the Valley of Elah, Jack Nicholson in As Good As it Gets, etc, , Bruno Ganz in Der Undergang, Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will be Blood, Dustin Hoffman in Midnight Cowboy etc. I don't even dare to mention a few british or irish actors like Peter O'Toole in a few roles. Many of this roles are not just great, they are fantastic.

It would be a sacrilege to put Heath Ledger and his role as the Joker up there with any of those. I'll put him a bit lower, maybe with Brad Pitts best performance, or Leonardo Di Caprio's; which are just ...good acting.
  EricHalfBee: Actually, I agree. It was an entertaining role. He pl…
im_stardust Jul 29 2012, 03:17 am EDT
But after re-reading your posts, I see you are mostly talking parallel to me, so....enough time wasting. I'm gonna do what's best to do on a sunny Sunday and that's going to sleep.
im_stardust Jul 29 2012, 03:29 am EDT
A simple look on actor's face that describes the perfect sentimental state in the right moment. That's great acting.....
  KraGeRzR: I agree. Faces and control over them is something tha…
Morkrul Jul 29 2012, 06:14 am EDT
morning folks, i'm back!
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